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I wore winter boots every day for two years.
I hate climbing trees. I'm Deborah Goldstein,

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host of the podcast The Big Fib, and half of
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Hour, we're taking a trip to Greenland to learn

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about the world's largest island and the people
who live there. We'll explore Greenland's

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culture,  landscape, and hear music in the Greenlandic
language. Our guest is children's book author

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Naja Lund Aparico, whose book, Seasons by the
Lake, takes young readers through a year of

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life on the island.  We'll find out the history
of the Greenlandic people from the first migrations

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until today.  Celebrate Indigenous Peoples'
Day with The Children's Hour and learn with

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us about Greenland.  This episode has a learning
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Hello, Bonjour, buenos dias,  g'day, guten tag, konichiwa,
ciao, shalom, dobre dia,  hello to all the

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children of the world.  We live in different
places from all around the world. We speak

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in many different ways.  Though some things
might be different, we're children just the

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same, and we all like to sing and play.  Hello,
bonjour, buenos dias,  g'day, guten tag, konichiwa,

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ciao, shalom, dobre dia  Hello to all the
children of the world. There are children in

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the desert and children in the towns and children
who live down by the sea.  If we could meet

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each other to run and sing and play,  then what
We are good, me

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Hello to all the children of the world Hello
to all the children of the world

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That was Hello to All the Children of the World
by Wee Sing. I'm Katie Stone. You're listening

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to the Children's Hour. I'm here with a lot
of great kids at the Outpost and on Zoom. Hello,

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everybody.  Hello.  And who do we have with
us today? Hi, it's Thorfinn. Hi, it's Asa.

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Hello, it's Amadeus. Hi, it's Luminata. Hi,
it's Nina. Hi, it's Vander. Hello, it's Max.

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Hello, it's Killian. Hi, it's Keaton. Hello,
it's Kaibia. Hello, it's Teddy. Hi, it's Xander.

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Hi, it's Amaya. Hello, it's Lucas D. Hi, it's
Ron. Hi, it's Marcel. Well, everyone, thank

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you so much for being here today out there in
Listener Land here on Zoom and here at the

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Outpost. I am so excited about our topic today
because I keep hearing about it in the news,

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but I don't really know that much about it.
It's Greenland. Have you guys been hearing

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about Greenland lately? Yes. You to know.
A lot of headlines. Quite a bit. It's a country,

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I think, although it's a big island. We are
going to learn about Greenland. What do you

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all know about Greenland? Looks icy. Looks cold,
doesn't it? I see pictures and it looks really

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kind of what we would say is foreboding, right?
It's got these big mountains. It's really,

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really, really cold.  Yet, whenever you see
pictures of Greenland, it's always so- colorful

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even though it's Greenland and that's because
it's just got a really colorful culture like

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people make it really beautiful and when I see
things online it's often about glaciers and

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a lot of freshwater of the planet is actually
in Greenland in glaciers. So we have a ton

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to learn about Greenland and our guest that
we have coming up is an author of a new children's

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book. It's called Seasons by the Lake Adventures
in Greenland. Her name is Naja Lund Aparico

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and she's gonna be with us for the whole hour.
We're gonna learn about Greenland. This is

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the Children's Hour. Stick with us. You can
find our learning guide for this episode at

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childrenshour.org. Look for Greenland.

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The music you're hearing today on the show is from
Greenland. That was Diisaq by Hinnarik Kammanilu.

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You're listening to the Children's Hour. I'm
Katie Stone here with a whole lot of great

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people at the outpost and on Zoom. And the kids
crew and I are with Naja Lund Aparico. She is

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a Greenlandic Inuk with a background in international
relations. She's a children's book author and

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her book is just beautiful and it teaches us
about Greenland.  It's called Seasons by the

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Lake Adventures in Greenland. Welcome to The
Children's Hour Naya. Oh, thank you, Katie. How

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did Greenland get its name?  The lore says that
it comes from Eric the Red, that was the Norseman,

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the Viking that came to Greenland in 982, and
that he wanted to attract more of his fellows

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from Iceland or Norway to make a settlement
there. So he named it Greenland, even though

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it was icy. He was actually a fugitive. They
wanted, you know, his head basically for committing

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a crime. So he was escaping Iceland and then
he found Greenland to be away from everything

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else until his sentence was basically over and
he could return. But by then he already had

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kind of created a society. And I think they
were there for about 500 years.  I would like to say

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that for me, Greenland's not that green. Like
they say Greenland is just icy where Iceland

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is green. I don't think it's true. For me, Iceland
is black because of the volcanic, you know,

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rocks and then Greenland has more color.  Is
Greenland mostly ice all over it? Oh yes, of

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course. It's covered by the ice sheet. The Greenland
ice sheet is huge. It's ginormous. I think

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it's 85 % of all of Greenland is covered in
ice. And people can only live at the edge,

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like the coastline. And so because of that,
there's no street, a lot of roads in between

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the towns. The ice is as thick as a mile. We
have to fly or we have to go by boat. What

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are we going to see? We get off of our airplane,
apparently, or our kayak in Nuuk, and what

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will we see? Is it really all white and full
of ice? That's kind of what we imagine. If

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you come during the summer, it's not going to
be all white. And the first thing you're going

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to notice is it's very rocky and there are no
trees. So imagine everything's visible, the

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whole ground, everything's visible.  Everything's
right close to the water and it's just gorgeous.

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Wait, there's no trees in Greenland? We have
a lot of like shrubs, you know, smaller because

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they have to keep tight to the ground to stay
alive all through the winter. We have imported

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trees down in the South that look like evergreen
trees, but they're very short. Wow. I can't

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imagine a place with no trees. I've seen pictures
of Greenland and your buildings are so colorful.

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Yes. In the beginning, when we had kind of
the missionaries and, you know,  the tradesmen,

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color was used for coding.  Like what was health,
think was like yellow. The buildings were yellow.

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Red, think that was like churches and then green
with schools. It was coded. We don't use that

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anymore, but color is big for houses.  You're
listening to the Children's Hour and today

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we're learning about Greenland. Our guest is
Naja Lund Aparico and she's written a book

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called Seasons by the Lake: Adventures in Greenland.
It's a picture book, but it has a lot in it

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to learn for all of us. There's a learning guide
that comes with this episode. You can find it at

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childrenshour.org.  Look for Greenland.  We've
got more coming up. Stick with us. This is

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That was the single Kalaaliuvunga by Sume.
You're listening to The Children's Hour. Our

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guest is Naja Lund Aparico. She is the author
of Seasons by the Lake: Adventures in Greenland.

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She is Greenlandic Inuk and she is here with
us on The Children's Hour. Let's go over to

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Nina. How did the Inuit people end up settling
in Greenland? We are mostly indigenous Inuit

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in Greenland that came from around year 1100
that migrated from Canada.  Inuit are nomadic

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people and there've been several migrations,
six or five migrations in total that goes all

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the way back 4,500 years ago. And our last migration,
the Thule people, they came around year 1100.

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And then there several theories why they came.
It could be that they sought the marine mammals

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that were going that way. or that they didn't
have space in Canada, that they had maybe fights

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with other groups or tribes. So it's theories
that we know of.  Was there a land bridge between

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Canada and Greenland for the migration to happen
or did everyone come over on kayaks? I think

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the land base was ice, the sea ice. So up by
Canada between Canada and Greenland's really

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very tiny. distance that freezes over in the
winter. So it's been possible to cross. And

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for us, sea ice is land that freezes over in
the winter. Wait, so you're saying that when

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you're up in the north of Greenland,  you consider
these big glacial icebergs almost, like you

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consider that land. Well, there's a difference
between icebergs and sea ice. That's the sea

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frozen over in very, very deep, deep depths.
Glaciers are coming from the Greenland ice

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sheet. They fall off the Greenland ice sheet.
So those are the icebergs. Are there a lot

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of animals in the Greenland ocean? Lots of marine
mammals. Definitely.  Lots and lots. There's

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all sorts of seals. We have whales. We can see
whales from our windows just out in the fjord.

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We consider polar bears as marine mammals because
they live on the sea ice and a lot of sea birds.

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You have polar bears?  We do. We don't see them
much in town though, but in the South where

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I'm from, they come with a, we call them pack
ice. That means it's the ice that comes from

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the East Greenland, basically from the North
Pole area. And it travels with the Gulf stream

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around the South and further up North. And that
brings polar bears.  Naja, you're Greenlandic

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Inuk. That's a very special culture. And
I'm sure there are certain things that define

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your culture. Our culture is very traditional
indigenous culture, which means our living

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is based on the marine wildlife, means our ancestors
and still today, hunted seals,  whales, seabirds,

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you know, we're living off fish. So it's very
marine based and we were going around with

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umyaks and khayak. So that's kind of the bigger
pictures of what Inuit life is. To me, what

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defines and what really sets it apart from bigger
Western places is that we don't consider nature

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a place to be bought. In fact, you can't own
land in Greenland. You can't buy land.  Our

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land is communal, meaning everybody owns all
of Greenland. We can't go in and say, I want

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to buy this piece of lot. What you can get is
you can get a permit to build on that piece

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of land, but you never own the land. And that
makes you kind of responsible for your neighbors,

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your neighbors are responsible for you. It's
a sense of everybody's a part of it. I suppose

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no one knows that actually.  Probably, probably
not. With nature, we don't consider it something

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that we have to control. We just live through
the rhythms and let that decide, the nature

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decide, can we go out today? I mean, we mostly
go out every day, but we're not the bosses

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of nature. The nature is our boss and we will
happily comply with what it's giving us. This

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is The Children's Hour. Stick with us. You can find
our learning guide for this episode at ChildrensHour.org.

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Look for Greenland.

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That was Kaakkukkakkit by Hinnarik Kammanilu. You're
listening to The Children's Hour and today

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on the show we're learning about Greenland.
Our guest is Naja Lund Apariko. She's a Greenlandic

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Inuk and she's also written a book called Seasons
by the Lake: Adventures in Greenland. It's a

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picture book for kids, but really all ages can
learn a lot. What inspired you to write the

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book you wrote? As a child, I played a lot outdoors
because our communities are so small and everything's

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pretty like local. So we get a lot of freedom
to play, you know, go to the lake. My mom and

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dad, they probably just let us out the door
and we could just go to school, like walk on

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the way and then just not even come home after
school. So you just do your thing until it's

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dinner time. Then you go home. When it's winter,
we get to build little Iglu's or we fish down by

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the creek or it's just a lot of outdoor adventuring
by ourselves. So my children's book, Seasons

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by the Lake, it's about, you guessed it, seasons
and life adventures down by the lake year round.

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Every year is different, but mostly we have
four seasons.  They're just not equal. We have

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long winters, very long winters. Sometimes it's
nine months. Is it dark all the time in your

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winter? The higher up north you are, the closer
to the North Pole, the darker and longer it

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is with no sun. So you don't see daylight at
all. Give us an example. What time does the

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sun set on a winter day in December? So if you're
up in Qaanaq, I think the last time you see

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the sun would be sometime in November, maybe
even October. Like it never comes up. It never

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comes up if you're really close to the North
Pole. It gets almost daylight. It's like twilight.

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but not quite sun. It doesn't rise at all. People
who grew up there are used to it. Once the

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winter solstice hit, the light comes back really
quickly. What is the average temperatures outdoor

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in Greenland? Just like in United States where
the differences between the North, if you're

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in Alaska, and down if you're in Texas, it's
very different. Obviously we're not hot, hot,

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hot and long summers the way they are here in
United States. But in Nuuk where I'm from,

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which is in the south, in the summer we get
as high as about 55, 60, and that's really

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hot. And then in the winter we can get as cold,
this is in Celsius,  minus 25 Celsius. So it's

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negative 13 degrees Fahrenheit. The 65 degrees
was in Fahrenheit. That's crazy. But in the

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north, it's going to be a lot colder. We have
to put a lot of layers, as you can imagine.

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If you've ever gone skiing up in the mountains,
you have to put a lot of layers on. And we're

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good at that. We have always layers and layers
on. But in the old days, they had to use seal

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skin to keep them warm. As you might have heard,
it's getting a lot warmer. The climate's getting

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a lot warmer. The hunters are the ones that
are most affected because they usually are

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catching what they're hunting from the sea
ice and that's disappearing. If they don't

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have sea ice, there's no basis for their traditional
ways of life. So that's changing a lot in the

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communities. We've been seeing like movies and
things of glaciers melting into the ocean.

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Have you seen that in real life? Have you seen
any of that going on around where you lived

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in Greenland? I think the way I would see it
in that area, we live in bigger cities. is

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that it's warmer. There are some winters that
we don't really get snow. I mean, we do get

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snow, but it's very little compared to when
we grew up in the 80s or 70s. A lot of snow,

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like it would just be for so many months, just
packs, but not anymore.  The voice you're hearing

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is Naja Lund Aparico. She is an author of a
book that came out recently called Seasons

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by the Lake: Adventures in Greenland. Today on
The Children's Hour, we're learning about Greenland.

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There's a learning guide that comes with this
episode. You can find it at childrenshour.org.

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Look for Greenland.

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That was Tulugaq by Nive Nielsen and the Dear
Children, Tulugak is an Inuit word that means

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That was Inuinnaagavit by Nanook. You're listening
to The Children's Hour. Our guest is Naja Lund

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Aparico. She is the author of Seasons by the
Lake: Adventures in Greenland. How big is

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Greenland and what is the capital? It's the
largest island in the world. So it's huge.

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It's big. I would say it's about a quarter,
25 % of US size, the size of US.  And then, oh,

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capital is Nuuk. That's where I'm from. And
it's N-U-U-K, right? Yep, that's correct. I'm

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aware of the fact that Greenland is classified
as a territory of Denmark. Why is Greenland

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considered a country? Oh, it is a country. It
is not an independent nation, meaning we're

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a part of the Danish kingdom. What's like the
official language of Greenland? The official

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language in Greenland is Greenlandic, which
is an Inuit language, just like they speak

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in Alaska and Canada. So even though the dialect
or the language has developed a lot since the

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migrations from Alaska over to Canada and from
Canada to Greenland over thousands of years,

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it's still very similar. I can understand a
lot what the Inuit are saying in Alaska and

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in Canada. What is the population of Greenland?
Do you want to make a guess?  2.4 million.

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Let's go a million thousand. 100 point a thousand.
A hundred thousand, he thinks. Very close.

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It's 56,000 people for the whole country.  That's
it? That's it. Just so folks who are living

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here in Albuquerque know, we have almost a million
people in the city. Nearly 700,000, I think.

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Oh, we're going down. Just for the smaller Albuquerque
area. But I mean, that is way lower than I

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thought it would be for Greenland, I mean, wow.
It's mostly Scandinavians, I would say, mostly

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Danish. Like about 20 % of the population is
Danish.  So maybe 8%, 5 % are foreigners. I

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think Thai are there, maybe Filipino. We do
have here and there, my husband was there as

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an American, but he acclimated quickly.  So
not too many New Mexicans. We all might freeze

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actually, I think, if we lived there. What kind
of food and natural resources are available

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in Greenland? And does a lot of the resources
have to get imported from other countries?

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So we always been nature-based or traditional
food has always been marine.  So it's fisheries

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that are huge. It's the main income base. The
biggest export to other countries is our fisheries.

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So a lot of fishermen are there.  Some hunters,
traditional hunters are still around, but

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they're fewer, a lot fewer now than in the olden
days. Most of our import is coming from Scandinavia.

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So Denmark is where we get our food, bread,
milk, all the dairy,  cereals. from Denmark.

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How does Greenland's economy operate with such
a small population and are there enough people

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for things like hospitals and schools? We're
too few on the island. A lot of Danes from

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Denmark come to work in the hospitals, especially.
Before we had our autonomy, the increased autonomy

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in Greenland, was 1979, we became a homo government,
meaning that we, from being considered a county

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in Denmark. So for kids listening, every state
might have, you know, a hundred counties.

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Albuquerque is in Bernalillo County. You've
heard of that.  Wherever you're listening listeners,

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you also live in a county, but typically a county
doesn't have that much power. your state government

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is gonna have more money. So, wow, that must
have been hard to be Greenland and only be

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a county of Denmark, which is pretty far away
physically, actually. That was the reason why

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everything needed to change because the distance
was too enormous and by getting our increased

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independence of this autonomy,  we created a
parliament in Greenland that made our own legal

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jurisdiction, meaning laws for our country.
Healthcare wise, we still are dependent on

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the Danish healthcare workers, but every small
town has a clinic of some sort. It's not like

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we're not getting healthcare.  Well, now is
when you get to make all the American parents

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jealous. You guys get free healthcare, right?
In Greenland, it's just like a right. That

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must be nice. We don't even have to pay for
medicine or anything. You can give birth, you

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know, you don't pay anything. It's free. You've
been listening to The Children's Hour. We've

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been learning about Greenland. You can learn
a lot more in our learning guide with this

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episode. can find it at ChildrensHour.org. Look
for Greenland. Our guest has been Naja Lund

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Aparico. Her book is Seasons by the Lake: Adventures
in Greenland.  Naja, thank you so much for being

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with us on the Children's Hour. We learned so
much from you today. Thank you so much for having

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me. You guys are amazing. Oh, I love the questions.
If you want to learn more about Greenland,

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you can find our learning guide at childrenshour.org.
Look for Greenland. And at our website, we

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always post our full playlist too. So you can
see the music that we've been playing, which

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is all music from Greenland and almost entirely
sung in the Greenlandic language. This is Upernaaq.

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It means spring, and this is by Sume.

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We've been learning about Greenland today during
The Children's Hour,  its history and the cultures

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of the people who live there. There's a learning
guide with this episode. can find it at ChildrensHour.org.

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Look for Greenland. We have time for just one
more today. This is Sauwestari. We'll catch

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you next time for another edition of the Children's
Hour.

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